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Patriot Act

Posted by Jessica Hinton in American Government - Herman on Monday, September 17, 2012 at 3:01 pm

After reading the different essays in the forum about the Patriot Act, it's obviously clear that there is a number of people that agree and disagree with the provisions of this act. It causes quite a swarm of debate about whether or not we still need it, and whether or not it's useful today. The safety of the citizens in this country is the main concern. That is all that the government is trying to accomplish with this act.


It's important to note, that this act does not just focus on international terrorists, but also terrorists within our own country. The act does not focus on "innocent" Americans, so no one should be too worried about being "spied" on, unless they're doing something they shouldn't. Basically, the government won't waste their time spying on anyone that does not need to be watched. They focus on people that have the potential to harm others. 


Due to the rise of technology, and more resources available for people to purchase (legally, and illegally), I believe that the act should still be a law. The security, and safety of the citizens should never be compromised, and should continue to be the highest priority for this government. Although some may be unaware, this act has actually stopped more than 30 terror plots. So, while some may think this is wrong, and unjust, it's better to think about how this has helped, rather than how it hurts. 

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Patriot Act Response

Posted by Jesus Jimenez in American Government - Herman on Monday, September 17, 2012 at 11:22 am

The Patriot Act causes quite an amount of debate that questions the priority of national security over the privacy of the American people. While keeping the country safe from terrorists should be a top priority, many people feel uncomfortable that the people that are keeping them safe, are the same ones that could potentially bug their houses.

Honestly, I don't believe that the average American would enjoy being spied on, yet the Patriot Act justifies it by mentioning that it'll pick out all the bad apples from our populous. But how? Under what assumption? Sure, there are judges to go through. Agents themselves are also required to provide reasonable evidence before any “bugging” can begin. Surely, we can trust our fellow government workers to decide who gets to be followed and who doesn't. Can we not?

Before freaking out and checking your walls for microphones, cameras and other things of the sort, let's understand what kind of people are the ones being tracked. Who the Patriot Act follows isn't common people like you and I. The average American isn't going to be followed, regardless of ethnicity, gender, or religion. Tourists, suspects, and other people that are actively moving in and out of the country are possible victims of the Patriot Act. The law is dedicated to keeping surveillance over sketchy and dishonest characters, and preventing them from possibly committing a dangerous crime that could breach the security of this country.

My personal opinion on the matter is that we still need the Patriot Act. I don't agree with the out government spying on people, especially using suspicion as a way to track down potential terrorists. But, like any good parent that wants the best for their children, they'll do what is necessary to protect their children (let's hope). Citizens of this country shouldn't be alarmed, this so-called “spying” isn't anything new. It has been going on for years. And as long as you feel comfortable living the life you currently are living, I'd say don't worry about the government or the Patriot Act. It's for the best.

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enemy of the state

Posted by Henri Genty in American Government - Herman on Saturday, September 15, 2012 at 12:02 am

1)How the government is portrayed in this film?
In this movie, the government is portrayed like an agency who can do everything. He has  equipment such as satellites that can identify people. he has agents, spy, computer specialists etc...The NSA do part of the government.But we can see that NSA can control the government. whether the NSA decided to discredit someone, the government follow the NSA. 

2)How individual citizen`s privacy is respected?

The privacy is respected in some way for the government guard these data to him, they are not disclosed. But for exemple the NSA know everything on we.

​3) Your opinion on level of access the government should have to your personal info
I think that the government needs to have information on the population of his state.
He needs it for the protection of his population. To know who has a job. To know who don`t have a job. to follow the increase of the population. To know how many children have families. With that the government can do something for help the population if she needs help.
But if the government use surveillance camcorder for to know personal info on his population. if he use spy, if he use agency for to know your private informations. The government has a database of the public private data. And these data can to be hackers. In more, the government can break articles of the constitution of universal human rights.
You can`t say a secret if you don`t  know this secret.

4)When individual freedoms can/should be restricted for safety of community?
the individual freedoms must be restrict when individual`s no longer recognizes the limitations of these libertees established by the constitution of the rights of the man. Eg personal injury. Like says one article of the constitution:
Freedom is to be able to do anything that does not harm others: thus the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of these same rights. These limits can only be determined by law
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Enemy of the state

Posted by Toni Marshall in American Government - Herman on Saturday, September 15, 2012 at 12:00 am

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In this movie I found the things that occurred on the governments behalf not to be surprising at all. The American government keeps major things from us that go against all of our rights as citizens. I don’t know who determines the definition of the terms “safety”, “protect” and “citizen” and what it means to the government of the United States. It is appalling to me that the “citizens” we are “protecting” had no idea that devices used and created for terrorist could at any moment be them.

In the movie Dean played by Will Smith kept repeating that he had no idea what was going on and why it was happening. In the scene when he meets up with the real Brill his ignorance as a citizen shows also when him and his wife are in the kitchen and she emphasizes how important it is for us to know about the changes that are made and how our privacy might be on the line. That is the issue with Americans they don’t follow up on current government changes and they don’t ask questions when there is confusion with a bill or law.

This movie was created well before the 9-11 attack, which says a lot. In movies I realized that if it is in a film already and it involves sensitive information about how the government operates. The government is way past the technology they use to “detect terrorists”. I do not agree with the government having access to cutting my phone lines, tapping into my phone and freezing my accounts. In the movie and reality the public should be more aware of the governments gadgets and when it is happening to them. Overall the thought of someone constantly watching you is here and always has been. I have every doubt that the government does not know the definition of acceptable and enough evidence to investigate someone. To be frank we are all being investigated and watched. I wouldn't be surprised if I got locked up for my Anti American views they might think that is enough evidence to wreck my home and ruin my life just like in the movie. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

            

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enemy of the state

Posted by Anonymous in American Government - Herman on Friday, September 14, 2012 at 11:50 pm

1)How the government is portrayed in this film?
In this movie, the government is portrayed like an agency who can do everything. He has  equipment such as satellites that can identify people. he has agents, spy, computer specialists etc...The NSA do part of the government.But we can see that NSA can control the government. whether the NSA decided to discredit someone, the government follow the NSA. 

2)How individual citizen`s privacy is respected?

The privacy is respected in some way for the government guard these data to him, they are not disclosed. But for exemple the NSA know everything on we.

​3) Your opinion on level of access the government should have to your personal info
I think that the government needs to have information on the population of his state.
He needs it for the protection of his population. To know who has a job. To know who don`t have a job. to follow the increase of the population. To know how many children have families. With that the government can do something for help the population if she needs help.
But if the government use surveillance camcorder for to know personal info on his population. if he use spy, if he use agency for to know your private informations. The government has a database of the public private data. And these data can to be hackers. In more, the government can break articles of the constitution of universal human rights.
You can`t say a secret if you don`t  know this secret.

4)When individual freedoms can/should be restricted for safety of community?
the individual freedoms must be restrict when individual`s no longer recognizes the limitations of these libertees established by the constitution of the rights of the man. Eg personal injury. Like says one article of the constitution:
Freedom is to be able to do anything that does not harm others: thus the exercise of the natural rights of each man has no limits except those which assure to the other members of the society the enjoyment of these same rights. These limits can only be determined by law
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Define Privacy

Posted by Pauline Garcia in American Government - Herman on Friday, September 14, 2012 at 10:29 pm

​While watching "Enemy of the State" I probably shook my head so many times that I will probably have a whiplash. The government was portrayed so bad in this movie. I'm not going to generalize but I'm just going to say that SOMEONE and his group of minions were using their power in such a bad manner. First of all, the villain killed someone in the government. I mean I don't think this happen in real life, and I hope not, but to go to the extend of killing someone just because they didn't agree to the things that he wanted him to do is just plain wrong. The second part was trying to kill another person who holds the information to spill the bad deed that he did. Well, it's not their fault that the guy died but they were the reason why he died. They used their power on people and used technology in a bad way that invaded people's privacy. 


When talking about privacy, the plot of this movie has none. The people in the movie does not respect the privacy of other people. There was a part where they were looking at Will Smith's background with his ex-girlfriend. They looked at his bank account and even sticked their nose in his private life like his past relationship! I mean, I don't want people to know what i did back back because past is past. Also when the old crusty villain told his minions to dig some dirty deeds so that "no one will believe him before he talks". I mean, he's in the government and he's the one doing the bad things. Will is not a terrorist, just a threat to him and he's using all these things to invade his privacy! And there were no judge to ask permission to, no warrants, no whatsoever! They were even trespassing in some of the scenes! I think, the government should only know the basics information about me. Like the schools that I go to, where I live, what kind of job I have, like that. Not my bank account or past love interest. 


My only concern about this is that, what if people inside the country abuse this power. It's not going to be the terrorist but the citizens who use it for their own selfish actions. We're going to be the enemy of each other and this will be a whole different problem that we have to solve. The only question is, how can we have this power without abusing it? 

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Enemy of the State

Posted by Amanda Millatt in American Government - Herman on Friday, September 14, 2012 at 9:28 pm

​In the film Enemy of the State the government was portrayed as nefarious, corrupt and just plain old evil. They would stop at nothing to clear their own names and get their way, like destroy innocents peoples reputation/life and even murder. This is horrifying to think that taxpayers money is going to personal problems and not towards actual crime or education. 

In the movie nothing was off limits regarding privacy, for example they put trackers on Will Smith and even vandalized him house to cover up their tracks. Also in the movie they put cameras everywhere in his house and sat outside of his house keep in mid that none of this was with permission or notice. In the movie respecting privacy was basically unknown, which is a little terrifying. 

It is difficult to say how much information the government should know about me, but i know it should never go to the extremes of this movie. I feel like it should not be that easy to run a whole investigation on someone, like they did to Will Smith. I feel that the government should have the abilities to use this technology on criminals, but the only way to get hold of this technology should be by a step by step basis. I feel that the person they are following should be yelling terrorist threats/ plans before they can totally invade and incriminate someone.

I don't feel that safety should be a factor for restricting rights, but if it must I would rather have freedom of speech than be safe. I should not have to be limited in my freedom of speech or freedom to practice religion, everyone deserves the right to express and feel the way they want as long as it does not hurt anyone. Their will always be violence and unsafe times, but life isn't worth living if you're voice was never heard.   
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Enemy of the State:Thoughts and Connections

Posted by Symone Smith in American Government - Herman on Friday, September 14, 2012 at 8:59 pm

Enemy Of the State is definitely an action packed movie with drama nicely woven into the plot. Personally I enjoyed this movie and would watch it repeatedly. Although this particular story was fiction it seemed real.It really made me wonder about what the government is up to behind the scenes. It also made me question how appropriate and “safe” government surveillance is. I do have my doubts about the government behaving in the same manner as they were portrayed in this movie. In the movie the government essentially had the power to take over a persons life without them knowing because they had the means to do so. One line from the movie that stood out to me was “Let’s get into his life”. There was a lot of secrecy and bribery going on. I thought it was noteworthy that they politician had others to do the “dirty work”. The overall feel of the government seemed less helpful and more cynical. There was nothing that they could not access thus there was no privacy. Personal phone calls and emails were no longer personal.In the movie phone conversations were document and one wrong word made a person suspect. I guess that if there was privacy there would be no way of finding “suspects” or people that disrupted the safety. In my opnion I don’t think that the government should get so personal that they know a persons every move as they move around their home. The government should have access to the basic information so they can contact a person without stalking them. In the movie there was not a moment that came across as safety trying to be established by means of surveillance.All in all its hard to agree that restricting freedoms were necessary for the safety of the community based on how extreme things got in the movie. In my eyes there is a thin line between trying to maintain safety and going overboard. No doubt the restrictions in the movie were categorized as overboard. I think that individual freedoms should be restricted for the safety of the community when it has proven to be a threat to safety of the community. But someone has to then determine what is a threat and what isn’t.Robert wasn’t proven a threat to the community until after his freedoms were restricted.The idea of when individual freedom should be restricted is complicated.

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Msanders Enemy of State response.

Posted by Michael Sanders in American Government - Herman on Friday, September 14, 2012 at 8:32 pm

​Enemy of the State was an alright film. I believed that the film's story really interested me and the theme taught me something new about the government. I loved the special effects portrayed by our government. Would if our government is watching my laptop right now. I'm pretty paranoid right now. They portrayed the government like some evil secret organization that that will try to ruin anyone that knows their true form. It makes me more careful in certain situations.

Individuals really have no privacy. Like what someone quoted in the movie: " You can't say Bomb, President or any other words related to the two with privacy. And even if you did absolutely nothing, the government could still be out against you. I believe that the government is taking situations to the extreme and needs to consider peoples privacy unless they are "BAD". Even  that do not ruin the man's job and especially their love life.

Like mentioned before our citizens privacy should be contained unless the government knows they are terrorist and the government shouldn't spy for personal reasons. I believe an individuals can defend for themselves on small situations.
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Blog Post 1: Enemy of the State

Posted by Dylan Cordivari in American Government - Herman on Friday, September 14, 2012 at 8:15 pm

​- In the film to me the government seemed to be portrayed as intelligent, two-faced and twisted. They had a darkness to them throughout the movie, even within the first few minutes. They seemed to act above the law entirely in a very behind the scenes and "under the radar" type manner. 

- The privacy of people were definitely not respected in this film because they were able to disrespect it in almost every way possible. In the movie they used tons and tons of different bugs that were placed, quite literally, everywhere. From pens to clothing articles etc. 

- Personally I think that the government should have a limited amount of access when it comes to the everyday privacy of people. The government does have a responsibility to protect its people yes, but there are ways to go about that, that don't require bugging its citizens. They shouldn't have to resort to invading our personal lives. 

- Honestly I don't think that individual freedom should ever be restricted i believe that there are fair and sensible ways to go about everything and if we were to just sit down and think we could come up with ways to keep people safe without having to break the constitution. 
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